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Sheldon Richman uses a driver’s license analogy to explain why libertarians should be concerned about same-sex marriage law even though we generally believe the state should stay out of marriage.

Sheldon Richman returns with Lucy Steigerwald for another mind-blowing episode of Free Association! Join the two this week as they chat about same-sex marriage law.

Be sure to check out Sheldon Richman’s recent article on the topic, Do We Have a Right to Marry? (https://sheldon.liberty.me/?p=458)

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Contributing editor/Columnist for VICE.comAntiwar.comRare.us, Playboy.com and Editor in Chief of The Stag Blog.
Sheldon Richman, author of America's Counter-Revolution: The Constitution Revisited, keeps the blog Free Association and is affiliated with the Center for a Stateless Society both as chair of the trustees and as a senior fellow. You can support his blog at Patreon.

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  • While most of us probably hold the position that the state has no business in marriage whatsoever, let us entertain a hypothetical situation for the sake of argument. If we had a choice to either legalize Gay-marriage everywhere or Self-marriage (The right to marry one’s self) everywhere which one should take priority within a liberty minded philosophy?

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  • Can prostitution present a legitimate ethical dilemma? Is it more so an ethical dilemma than a moral one? Your thoughts?

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  • If prostitution were legal, how would the concept be taught to kids? How would you make kids understand it? Or your child understand it?

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  • This is basically a response to: Beyond ‘no means no’: the future of campus rape prevention is ‘yes means yes’ “No means no” and “Yes means yes” may seem like good, simple, and commonsense advice, but I can’t imagine anyone who honestly observes their social interactions can’t see that most communication (especially in the realms of “seduction” and “attraction”) is completely nonverbal. To start, let me begin by saying that I used to be super careful about ever crossing another person’s boundaries without their permission. In reality, I was too careful. I used to never initiate with women ever. I was too afraid to do something that they didn’t want. If a girl wanted to be with me, she had to do all the initiation (I somehow magically got some action this way, but it ultimately hurt my chances). As a result, I can count on more than one hand when I’ve been in situations where women are giving me a 100% nonverbal “yes,” but I never acted on it, because I never got a verbal “yes.” It got so bad, they would even contact me later in the night and say things like, “You know, you could’ve kissed me/fucked me if you wanted.” Consent is a much bigger grey area than feminists want you to believe. But ignoring how consent usually happens in the real world is ultimately destructive toward an honest conversation about what “consent” really means. To bring this around full circle, this also means that if a girl is giving a verbal “Yes,” but a nonverbal “No” (hesitation in her voice, closed body language, doesn’t seem “into” it) it’s probably better to lay off even though you technically have verbal consent. Please Note: This was originally a post for straight men, but feel free to switch the genders however you like – it’s not relevant.

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  • I sincerely hope that this post does not offend anyone. Really. If you are offended, please accept my apology. But this is free speech right? I just have to say this. People talk about the war between the sexes. Both sides can do things to fix the problem but because men cannot control what women do, and can only control themselves, I would like to offer 5 simple points of manners/norms to de-escalate. I offer my iron-clad guarantee that this will work. No need to make a big show.  No production. Just make it casual and normal. No words need ever be exchanged. Just do it and watch the magic. I’m strongly of the opinion that a major reason for the persistence of the kind of “feminism” that actually bugs and scares men has to do with the collapse of standards of behavior by men. These fives rules fix that. 1. Men should hold doors for women. No matter what. This is true for entering any public or private space. The woman goes first. The one exception is the turning carousel. Those can be awkward but the man usually goes first. 2. Men must always and forever open the car door for women, no matter what, forever and ever, wherever, whenever. You don’t have to go around the car to let her out unless she sits and waits for this (which she will not unless it is  formal occasion). 3. A man always lights a woman’s cigarette. You can do this if it is in her mouth, or, she asks for one from you, you can light it in your mouth and hand it to her, which can be just a bit erotic. 4. The first time any woman comes to any table for eating, ever, all men must gesture toward standing, and the man closet to her MUST pull out her chair. I know this seems old world but if you do it, you will forever be considered the most amazing man ever. If she gets up again and comes back, you do not have to do anything, and, in fact, should not. This is a one-time deal. 5. A man must never ever impose himself physically on a woman, no matter what, whether it is sex or kissing or slapping on the rear or touching her in provocative ways or even holding her hand when she has not signaled interest. If you do make some physical move, and she says no, even slightly hints at it, your only job is to respond by backing away, no matter what. Forget the old movies and forget the scenes in sex novels. Times are changed. You must signal that you are not a threat, and this means listening when she hints at no. I’m happy to hear more ideas. Or corrections. Or emendations. I really do believe that doing these things — very simple but highly symbolic and even substantive — can make the war between the sexes reduce in importance.      

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