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How do we determine if a fine is “excessive?” Is it a multiple of damages done? What if there are no damages? More to the point, what if there is no victim at all?

This is the question Matt and I ask on today’s show. What should the punishment be for a crime that has no victim?

Tune in to find out.

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  • Statists seem to reject anarchy based on a fundamental fear of giving people freedom. That freedom is what turns people evil. Parents today seem to control their children out of that same fear that people in the world can’t be trusted and will hurt their child, and it is so bad the kid needs to be kept in a bubble 24/7. But also, the child is controlled because free play and exploration is seen as so dangerous, as if a child directing their own life is the catalyst to societal destruction. Then the child grows up through the trauma, unable to handle life or freedom and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. The parents’ worst fears are realized as true as their now adult child struggles to handle freedom for the first time. So often I see this covered up and ignored, that people are oblivious to the cycle of abuse and continually believe that murderers pop up out of nowhere for no reason. Just think, if statists knew what really caused people to become mentally ill, criminals, and/or murderers, then they would support anarchy as a way of minimizing this.   It’s funny how anarchy is the best solution for the most destructive society as well as evolving that society into something much better.

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  • Is there such a thing as a victimless crime?  If a thief robs a Bank, aren’t all the customers and the Bank victims? Can anyone point to any kind of a crime that is not with a basic lack of respect for the other members of society?  In recent years States have enacted “Hate” Crime Laws or enhancements to sentences.  Isn’t the act of committing a Crime an act which lacks respect for the other members of a society.  How does it change when you call it: For the Crime of the Hate?

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  • Or should there be prisons? There was one video I saw on You tube but I cant find it, stating “No prisons in a Free society.” If everyone carried guns, would we even need State/Federal prisons? I believe you should have private institutions like extended care living facilities that could be charity based, to look after so called, “criminals.” My idea, was that you can have one that looks after each-type-of-crime. Such as, having one facility for violent criminals, another for sex criminals, and another for theft. That way, each category can be examined separately instead of throwing them in all-together which is a festering danger. If any of you can help me find information on no prisons in a free society., please let me know. Videos are always great and easy.

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  • In a stateless society, there is no monopoly on criminal justice that can grant immunity from prosecution to a minor criminal in order to get testimony that can convict a major criminal. One court company could grant immunity, but then another could use the minor criminal’s testimony to pursue a case against that person. Is there a way to make this work, or would a stateless society have to seek justice without the evidence gained from immunity grants?

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  • A good article on how the legal system is a weak service even though it consumes resources, employees thousands and controls millions. http://www.vox.com/2016/1/13/10737742/husband-rapist I saw and experienced the cold and clinical way “justice is served” to victims, families, and communities. At the end of it, after enormous pain and loss were expressed in victim impact statements, remorse and confusion were expressed in Jason’s statement, and the facts of the assaults were reviewed by the judge, all that happened is that one person was sent to prison for the rest of his life and everyone else was just sent home. It was indescribably empty, with no peace or healing to be found. That was something, it seemed, we would each have to find on our own.

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