Have many of you read any or much of his works ?
And how influential do you think he is whether directly or indirectly in most Western nations? Notably the US.
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Edward Bellamy
Have many of you read any or much of his works ?
And how influential do you think he is whether directly or indirectly in most Western nations? Notably the US.
Thank you all
Boy, I had to brush out some cobwebs to dredge up that memory.
I imagine he has some following among the liberal arts crowd, and may inspire lingering resentment among those of us who had to endure utopian stuff, while we were attempting to escape our under grad experience. I don’t think he had much actual impact on American culture and beliefs.
I recall coming across some of his ‘inspirations’ those national groups etc in an older book. I have been unable to find much on line about them other than smidges here and there.
I am just trying to converge in my head the influences that sci fi, fantasy, dystopian-utopian writers from this late 19th to early 20th Century had on a lot of political thought and philosophy.
Such as Upton Sinclair and the ‘I have never been to an abattoir’ depictions of an abattoir to the HG Wells futurists, we need a central Govt. through to Jack London, Aldous Huxley and I guess even writers such as Rudyard Kipling.
I enjoyed Looking Backward. It forecast concepts like Amazon ordering catalog, home package delivery and a mechanical internetwork for messages. It also, like ‘Utopia’ exposed that these people wouldn’t mind relying on forced labor for the dirty tasks they couldn’t conceive getting done voluntarily. Very telling. Also share with all your conservative friends the fact that his brother, another socialist, came up with that great American Pledge of Allegiance. Think about that every time you see a group standing proud to recite the words of a central planner.
It is funny that alot of elites and academics think about hard labour tasks with such disdain and imagine that no one would do it unless desperate or coerced.
I came from the meat industry. Been in it since I was a kid. The best part about that job was climbing into the back of a truck and unloading tons of body beef, or loading thousands of lambs into another. It is HONEST, non arbitrary, goal orientated work. The hard part is when people from outside dictate through inflexible and self indulgent regulation hoops by which to ‘improve’ the job.
It is growing harder and harder to find this sort of work in today’s convulded sit down and academic inspired world. Don’t get me wrong I never liked bagging offal. BUT I know
people that did. I personally hated the admin and sales side of things that went with management.
I would listen to lectures about labour theory and the likes dictated from the pulpits of inexperience that could not even grasp how a business works or what it feels like to lift something heavy, to be covered in filth and sweat in the early hours of the morning, and yet these writers like a Bellamy or tenured academicians seem to view this World with an unknowing observance and a lack of imagination born from the naivety of their own safe little worlds.
It is interesting and sad, especially considering that such have so much influence and reach as far as their influencing tendrils go.
LOL rant over/
