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Precious Metals Investing

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Gold & Silver

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silver,gold,stocks and the coming bull market in PM’s

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  • Profile picture of Jon Kalb

    Jon Kalb posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 4 years, 11 months ago

    I’m looking for an coin/precious metals dealer local to me (East Bay, California). Any recommendations and any thoughts on Livermore Coin and Bullion?

  • Profile picture of P_Fritz

    P_Fritz posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 6 years, 5 months ago

    Any thoughts on http://www.GoldMoney.com and Peter Schiff’s acquisition of same?

    • Profile picture of Rick Rule
      Rick Rule replied 6 years, 5 months ago

      Good deal for both sides. Peter monetizes a subscale, management intensive bullion dealer, and gets pid on an ongoing basis for his core competency, marketing and communications.
      Gold Money gets additional assets to bolt onto an at scale bullion franchise with long established management competence, and gets access to a marketing machine

  • Profile picture of P_Fritz

    P_Fritz posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 6 years, 5 months ago

    Hello, I am new to this community. I’m wondering if people have recommendations on where to purchase precious metals. I am familiar with Apmex but wondering what other options might be out there.

    • Profile picture of Toni Sopocko
      Toni Sopocko replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      I was unhappy with my old supplier, so I recently purchased from Amagi Metals. Excellent service! I’d definitely recommend them.

    • Profile picture of P_Fritz
      P_Fritz replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      @sopocko Thanks, I’ll check them out. What didn’t you like about your old supplier?

    • Profile picture of Patrick Binder
      Patrick Binder replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      Hi Paul,

      I recommend using LIBERTY.menu to find businesses within the liberty community. Here is the link for metals http://liberty.menu/goods/metals/

    • Profile picture of Toni Sopocko
      Toni Sopocko replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      @paulmcatee , The only thing wrong with them was that it took MONTHS to get my stuff.
      With Amagi, I ordered the slow way, by check, and my order was for a back ordered item, and it STILL arrived in less than half the time my old supplier would have taken.

    • Profile picture of Patrick Binder
      Patrick Binder replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      @sopocko I agree, Amagi is great. I have not tried Agora Commodities.

    • Profile picture of Blue Square
      Blue Square replied 7 years, 11 months ago

      Welcome, Paul!
      You might be interested in this guide by Liberty.me member @vincentmalherbe , who works with Global Precious Metals:
      http://liberty.me/guides/how-to-buy-sell-and-store-precious-metals/

    • Profile picture of Ralph McIntyre
      Ralph McIntyre replied 6 years, 5 months ago

      If you are interested in a vacation to Thailand, walk into any gold shop here, buy as much or as little as you wish, and walk out with it in your pocket. No delay for delivery.

      And nobody will ask you for ID. (On selling, yes, they want ID, but not to buy.)

      Finding gold shops is easy: Every neighborhood and town has gold shops. Most in…[Read more]

    • Profile picture of Justin Hale
      Justin Hale replied 6 years, 5 months ago

      @retired
      If he buys much his pants might fall down . 😂

    • Profile picture of P_Fritz
      P_Fritz replied 6 years, 5 months ago

      @sofee I did Maurice, thank you.

  • Profile picture of Matt Anderson

    Matt Anderson posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 6 years, 11 months ago

    Desperate times call for desperate measures. Big win for Franco.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-10/franco-nevada-to-buy-stream-from-glencore-for-500-million

    • Profile picture of Rick Rule
      Rick Rule replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      Matt
      Much more coming. On a discounted cash flow basis, Franco Nevada’s cost of capital is sub zero. I think they will soon announce a massive, absurdly cheap bond deal.
      They will apply the proceeds buying long lived precious metals streams on world class base metals mines.
      Those streams, valued as base metals cash flows command an 8 times gross…[Read more]

    • Profile picture of Matt Anderson
      Matt Anderson replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      @rrule How does a company get a sub zero cost of capital on a discounted cash flow basis? Does this simply mean the discount rate calculation, which includes the weighted average cost of capital, is overstated and should be lowered even further or is it a much more complicated analysis than that?

      Yes, Franco is an amazing story. To see them not…[Read more]

    • Profile picture of Rick Rule
      Rick Rule replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      @sofee
      On Franco’s part, an arbitrage, or rather, a double arbitrage. The first is the valuation discrepancy between the precious metals cash in a base metals revenue stream, or segregated.
      The second is the arb between the cost of capital, and the return on capital employed.

    • Profile picture of Rick Rule
      Rick Rule replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      @matt77
      If one determines that the enterprise value is substantially in excess of the net present value of the assets, using the commodity strip, and discounting at the forward prime strip, one can say the to raise equity at the EV prices conveys on the issuer a sub zero cost of capital.

    • Profile picture of Matt Anderson
      Matt Anderson replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      @rrule That makes sense.
      So because the company trades at such a premium i.e. “enterprise value,” to their discounted assets; issuing shares at the enterprise level causes the issued equity, to have a sub zero cost of capital.
      Thanks for the pointer, I’ll have to remember this.

    • Profile picture of Rick Rule
      Rick Rule replied 6 years, 11 months ago

      @matt77
      Correct. In old school analysis, when an equity issuance takes place at a level above the level that would occur as a function of discounted NPV, then the financing is said to be accretive, on a cost of capital basis.
      Note that in certain cases, ” redundant assets” ( assets not generating a current return) can distort this analysis, to…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Todd Markey

    Todd Markey replied to the topic Euro Pacific Bank in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 4 months ago

    I really like this idea, but it doesn’t rival bitcoin is that it doesn’t have most of the features that makes bitcoin useful (peer to peer, blockchain technology, borderless…)

  • Profile picture of Martin Nicholls

    Martin Nicholls replied to the topic Euro Pacific Bank in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 4 months ago

    I wonder if this is Bitcoin’s (as far as I know) unmentioned future rival?

     

    Also just in case you’re confused, the debit card does not draw down the clients metals directly.

  • Profile picture of Martin Nicholls

    Martin Nicholls started the topic Euro Pacific Bank in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 4 months ago

    Euro Pacific Bank is specially tailored to suit the needs of Peter Schiff’s non-US clientele. The bank is located in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (a tax neutral jurisdiction that offers privacy protection). Clients of Euro Pacific Bank have access to a gold/silver backed bank account (which is part of the Perth Mint depository program).

    One…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Martin Nicholls

    Martin Nicholls started the topic Euro Pacific Bank in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 4 months ago

    Euro Pacific Bank is specially tailored to suit the needs of Peter Schiff’s non-US clientele. The bank is located in Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (a tax neutral jurisdiction that offers privacy protection). Clients of Euro Pacific Bank have access to a gold/silver backed bank account (which is part of the Perth Mint depository program).

    One…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Brian 'Maverick' Blum

    Brian 'Maverick' Blum started the topic Practicality of Metal as Currency in the forum Gold and Silver 8 years, 6 months ago

    After the zombie apocalypse, what do you think will be the best way to be prepared for the use of alternate currencies, such as precious metals?
    Obviously we’re going to need less-expensive metals (such as silver) for smaller denomination purchases and more value-packed metals (such as gold or platinum) for larger-denomination purchases, but after…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Here in Ireland we have been burying our wealth for 5000 years ! a tried and tested store of wealth by any means.

  • Profile picture of Brian 'Maverick' Blum

    Brian 'Maverick' Blum posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Hi – new group member here.

    Is this group more targeted for people investing in physical metal or in paper assets related to metal?

    Thanks!

    • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty
      Edward mc Ginty replied 8 years, 6 months ago

      Both because i think of my physical gold as a savings account and my silver as a current account ,and my paper gold assets as play money that will be sold to buy more physical ! hope this helps

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Pick right sit tight!

    Full Interview With Billionaire Frank Giustra – YouTube
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o30gNfPq_k
    http://cambridgehouse.com – Mining and entertainment mogul Frank Giustra in conversation with Cambridge House – August 28th, 2012. Topics include inflation, …

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty replied to the topic Top Junior Mining Stocks in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    My new addition  to my portfolio Dalradian Resources , very high grade and in mining friendly country Ireland .

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    What is the real value of eight hours of labor ! Amazingly. Historical Silver: among the ancient Greeks (500 BC) to about 1860 (from then on the dilution of almost pure EM currencies began with paper money) can show you that a base salary (farm workers or something similar) in silver from 2.5 to 5 grams a day was. Only in times of war, famine, or…[Read more]

    • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty
      Edward mc Ginty replied 8 years, 6 months ago

      So on a monetary level two ounces of silver per month in today’s terms is 30EURO. 16 grams per week. Average monthly wage is 2000 Euro per month , lets hope the euro dose’s not collapse or silver has a lot of catching up to do !

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Good to hear your views Sean lets see if we can weed out the the top 20% and give our portfolios a boost in the coming bull market in pm’s

  • Profile picture of Sean Ridlon

    Sean Ridlon replied to the topic Top Junior Mining Stocks in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Potentional gains since the end of silver fix might be on the horizion. Increasing demand for PMs in all sectors. That said:

    I like First Majestic- has several good producing mines on step and several development properties in development. Has little debt. Outright owns it’s mines. Production looks healthy.

    Golden Minerals- zero debt, zero…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Brazil Resources a must own Junior mining stock with a 500% return in the next few years, current price 0.90 cents CAD

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Gold is money everything else is Credit!

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc ginty started the topic Top Junior Mining Stocks in the forum Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    What is your favorite and Why

    • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty
      Edward mc Ginty replied 8 years, 6 months ago

      Mine is Brazil Resources which has a top notch management team!

  • Profile picture of Edward mc Ginty

    Edward mc Ginty posted an update in the group Precious Metals Investing 8 years, 6 months ago

    Currency is like an aging process it decays over time !

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